Villiers Engine Serial Numbers
There are many pics of villagers around,so take a peek and see what you think. Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 15/07/13 05:13 PM 15/07/13 05:13 PM. Download adobe master collection cs6 crack. Wow, both 1959! Must have been a great year Your suggestion on the MK2 being off a Villager or Vampire looks pretty spot on from the images I've seen.
Thanks for the help and I may well need your stocks of parts in due couse. Pockets wrote:We can help you with dating look at the flywheel, If its original, GEORGE. What is it about the flywheel that I am looking for? Is it something I could see though the space arround the starter pully, or will the blower housing need to be removed?
I have bought a Villiers Mk10 air-cooled engine from an aution and am now trying to gather enough info to overhall. Is it possible to tell from the serial number? Technical information on Villiers engine serial numbers. Villiers Engine Indentification. 434 JDL Single Speed Francis-Barnett Model 50 1947-1949.
Hopefully John may be able to clarify better:) As my knowledge has all but hit its limit And yes Unkie,ill get some Images up for you when I can,until then feel free to ask anything.
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Regards,john Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 14/07/13 04:07 PM 14/07/13 04:07 PM. A Champion Code, Mk2 Midget,Nice!
Pace,Austral Villiers, Villager,Vampire and a few others also ran Villiers midgets until the 7f manual and auto were released. Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 01:32 AM 13/07/13 01:32 AM. The first engine spec code 402x indicates a mark 2 midget engine and the b6698 is the part number for the cylinder. The 407x spec is for a 5g engine and was supplied to pace.the spec codes tell the company supplied to and any special components for them.402x = Villiers with d119au inlet pipe,m2530d starter pulley,s12 carby and a 3'1' cable. 407x = pace, with s10 carby,d169au inlet pipe and d180au silencer.the parts book indicates the cylinder number as c9095 not g3095,so maybe this was a special order.regards,john Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 06:03 AM 13/07/13 06:03 AM. Very Impressive Info John.
Im sure John would agree the numbers on the parts wont necessarily tell you what mower they came off,only the serial number will determine this. And he has stated that the 402x was a generic code for many mowers,so maybee we will never know on the 402x 98 cc Midget. To confirm dates of engines Unkie,you need to remove the pulley and alloy housing off the flywheel to see the code stamped on the inner rim of the flywheel. This will give you serial,month and year. So for your 5G (pace confirmed engine) you should be able to verify the model it came off by matching it with the Pace model codes for that year. Since it will be a 'standard mower' being only small capacity it should be easy to determine.
If its not to much trouble John,I have 2 engines that Im also interested in finding their origins. The first is a 5G 266x with unmarked brass inlet,I assumed was of an Austral. The second is of a Mk3 Midget 98cc 194X 14368,which I pulled of a Pope' of all things,But im sure was fitted to a Pace 1V98 or 2VR98 Special'Origionally. Would love to know as I have an Early Pace for Resto without its correct engine.If youve the time would you please be able to assist me in verifaction also?
The number is familiar so ill do some peeking for you. Show me images if you like and the date code on top of the flywheel.Red could indicate Austral or pace,but that doesnt count for much.And they both ran 98 and 70 cc Midgets. Sorry I dont have much more for you,hopefully other members can shed some more light Victa only used Villiers on 3 models the billycart,Mk1 Fan and MK2 Fan.The Billy cart and at least 30% of Mk1 Fans were Still english sourced engines and used their coding,which is very erratic and very little is known of their sequence,if at all. Midway through the Mk1 fan the 132x coded Aus engines were used and ran in sequence until the last Mk 2 Fan. A run amount?
It is running the Mk3 armature plate A67 Fan is M508 and pulley is M509, Which is definately a MK3. So maybe its a bitsa. I may revert it back 2 Mk2 specs then and keep it as a good spare,who knows I may get a champion one day:) And ill do some research into Condeco' Thanks heaps John,Fantastic Info Youve offered. And yes Unkie,Coincidently they both appear to be June 59. So your Pace Mower Model' code for your 407X MK3G should be a PACE 3ST Standard' Ill try and find you an Image of one. Im still thinking your 402X Mk2 is off a Villiers Villager' But I can only Assume.
The Pace production list notes the Standard as having a 3G but John reckons its a 5G. Forgive my ignorance on this one! A quick google search turned up a reference to Condeco being the parent company of Austral Villiers, so your theory proved correct, Mal. Nice work mate!
It my be a little while before I can get back to you about this as I will have to retrieve the engine from where I have stored it and if it need any dismantling it will have to wait till I have cleared some workshop space for the resto! Thanks for the help and I may well need your stocks of parts in due couse. WilliamIf its one of the older engines you will need to remove the cowl, on the outer edge of the f,wheel there is a string of numbers the last 2 denote the year IE 62=1962 etc. George, villiersparts.
It is very good but he makes it very clear he could not find a complete list of all Villiers identification numbers and this is one of those that is'nt in his book. In fact he even makes a small error claiming Norman used the prewar and wartime 9D prefix of AAA. Villiers stopped using AAA for their postwar 9D, and included them in their complicated postwar system which you need to read Bacon extensively to understand. Villiers didn't make identification of their engines an easy task!! Luckily the Police in my home state in Australia erected their own list of engine numbers for their own mysterious policeman reasons. That list includes some of the Villiers numbers Mr Bacon couldn't find and I have a copy of it. I'm pleased to tell you that your engine was supplied to Norman and that Normans did a bit of badge engineering and also sold the Norman out here as the Roamer.
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Thought I would post a link in this thread for a very cool Frankenstein of a Victa/Villiers edger that has come up on eBay. Looks to have a nice MK2 on it: A cheeky request, Mal. I'm neck deep in a model two Rotomo in the early 50 thousands, and am trying my best to make it a concourse quality restoration. I was hoping you could post a thread specifically detailing your collection of model twos, with a particular focus on a photographic progression from the early model twos through to your later examples. The minute details including fuel tap type, painting, decal positioning, throttle type etc, would make creating an accurate, factory correct restoration so much easier for myself, and I'm sure, many others. I ask this as many of the restorations I've seen lack consistency, and I'm pretty sure with your thorough and extensive knowledge on the model, would be able to clear up many of the discrepancies I've encountered. Feel free to tell me to go jump.
Are they collectible/rare/desirable? Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 17/08/13 06:50 AM 17/08/13 06:50 AM. Sorry to go a little off topic but just came accros this post after searching about villiers midget engines. I have an alex grahame rotary mower which am going to restore and spied an alex grahame to the left of the picture, any chance you have some more info on the mower? Mine is missing the muffler and air filterand am searching for these items if anyone is willing to part with them? The mower is in storage back home at the moment will start restor in the next month or two and will start a thread if my own.
Can anyone explain the Villiers engine number system, and what model Victas the number sequences started and finished on? I'm trying to work out what model Victa mowers the following engine numbers came off: Cylinder # 3812 B6698 Crank case # 402X 45 169 Cylinder # G3095? Canciones de juan carlos alvarado. Crank case # 407X 29 055 Crank# 764 55 65 Crank # 816 21 354 The top one has a brass pulley, the second a alloy pulley painted red. As usual, any help much appreciated! Membership information Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 12/07/13 02:50 PM 12/07/13 02:50 PM. I can possibly ID the engine with Images.Youve no idea what a huge can of worms your trying to open with Villiers.The coding is limitless and confusing and thats just for the engines themselves.trying to ID parts is even harder. I have engine codes for most aus 98cc midgets and 70cc,never got in to much else.I can tell you its Australian(ballarat made)Engine and by the parts its not a Midget,which most Aus rotarys used,so im presuming its off a reel mower.
Im not sure but im thinking around 4,500 only since this is the highest number ive seen on a mk 2 fan. Again other may have more info,but to my knowledge there is very little. Pace,Austral Villiers, Villager,Vampire and a few others also ran Villiers midgets until the 7f manual and auto were released. Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 01:32 AM 13/07/13 01:32 AM. The first engine spec code 402x indicates a mark 2 midget engine and the b6698 is the part number for the cylinder. The 407x spec is for a 5g engine and was supplied to pace.the spec codes tell the company supplied to and any special components for them.402x = Villiers with d119au inlet pipe,m2530d starter pulley,s12 carby and a 3'1' cable. 407x = pace, with s10 carby,d169au inlet pipe and d180au silencer.the parts book indicates the cylinder number as c9095 not g3095,so maybe this was a special order.regards,john Re: Villiers Engine Numbers [] 13/07/13 06:03 AM 13/07/13 06:03 AM.